tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post7136263656378923021..comments2024-03-08T06:05:58.629-06:00Comments on Alaiyna B. Bath and Body: How I Create Liquid Soaps and Shampoos - A TutorialFaith Orioldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-81800432201946959452018-01-15T13:06:07.406-06:002018-01-15T13:06:07.406-06:00Hi there... I made a number of batches of liquid s...Hi there... I made a number of batches of liquid soap that turned out perfectly every time. Then I decided to try a double batch. Everything went the same (I used borax in each batch), until I added patchouli and orange essential oils. It went instantly cloudy. I have sequestered for several weeks and it appears to be settling with the proper clear amber on the bottom and the majority still cloudy and fairly thick. Is there a good natural clarifier for this condition? Can I reheat the cloudy bunch and see if it comes to trace again? The texture is good and it works as soap. I am wondering if it is the two essential oils I used that is the cause. I know real patchouli is not as reliable as synthetic patchouli. But I want to use the real thing!AliJordanBrownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06197249943580150369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-2386503400953692202017-02-18T21:34:29.410-06:002017-02-18T21:34:29.410-06:00Hi. You state, "Thickening with Hydroxyethyl ...Hi. You state, "Thickening with Hydroxyethyl Cellulose (HEC) - This is the thickener that I have decided to go with for all other soaps, shampoos and body washes that are not 100% soft oils." Could you elaborate on why you would not use HEC on 100% soft oils? New to liquid soap and just finished my first batch based on your tutorial. Working on dilution now. Thank you for sharing such clear instructions. Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08198715625215943384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-88284633846910961582017-02-02T10:57:43.100-06:002017-02-02T10:57:43.100-06:00I did and will read again, and again. I did one li...I did and will read again, and again. I did one liquid soap batch already but made a CP soaper mistake : I added a 5% superfat with olive oil, thinking it would make the soap softer. This was before I found your tutorial and understood my mistake. It was cloudy and then the fat went straight up and it was clear underneath. It was a test and my children are pleased with it, but I can't wait to try again. Note that the whole process took me more than 48 hours, I did not think it could be so time consuming. Now I want to go for your 50/50 glycerin water method and take notes. I love mango butter, but if I understood well, it is better to keep it low (I calculated 5%) because of its unsaponifiables. Can't wait to have some time off to test :)S4br1n4khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00499372572225308346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-62524761253023192562017-02-01T12:26:13.698-06:002017-02-01T12:26:13.698-06:00Thank you. Make sure to check out the other liquid...Thank you. Make sure to check out the other liquid soap tutorials too.Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-59340812651099599122017-01-29T18:13:07.071-06:002017-01-29T18:13:07.071-06:00Wow I could not dream of a clearer and better expl...Wow I could not dream of a clearer and better explained tutorial. I have been doing CP and HP and feel the time has come to test liquid soap. I have been reading and researching and reading and must say your tutorial sticks out. Thank you for the hard work of putting all this knowledge together :)S4br1n4khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00499372572225308346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-10554004601770844582016-10-24T18:02:29.893-05:002016-10-24T18:02:29.893-05:00Wow Thanks very much for your quick reply. I will ...Wow Thanks very much for your quick reply. I will do clarity test :)Sravanthihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07234441305547918156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-82597401711274811232016-10-24T17:46:10.035-05:002016-10-24T17:46:10.035-05:00Hi Sravanthi - My first suggestion is to make sure...Hi Sravanthi - My first suggestion is to make sure that you are using enough heat to move the saponification process along. Saponification of your oils/lye mixture goes faster with the addition of heat and/or glycerin. <br /><br />Have you done a clarity test yet? Not all pastes will look the same and not all paste will have that translucent look. Start with a clarity test to see where you are.Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-44788746539421987612016-10-24T17:36:51.507-05:002016-10-24T17:36:51.507-05:00Hi Faith,
I have used the beginner recipe mention...Hi Faith,<br /><br />I have used the beginner recipe mentioned on this post.I have reached mashed potato consistency and starting cooking in crock pot for 4 hours now.It is still in that form and no change.I didn't see any transparent soap yet.Any idea what would be the problem?<br /><br />Thanks very much for your wonderful tutorials.<br />SravanthiSravanthihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07234441305547918156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-14711371679874364352016-09-03T09:23:07.193-05:002016-09-03T09:23:07.193-05:00Focus more on the actual paste as the pink that sh...Focus more on the actual paste as the pink that shows up in the paper towel after a bit can be a false representation of excess lye and more an indicator of an alkaline pH. Using drops directly on the paste is a quick test but can have minute accuracy issues. Try testing on something nonabsorbent but white or clear. The most accurate way to test with drops is by titration. Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-11264365013337630512016-09-02T23:38:08.312-05:002016-09-02T23:38:08.312-05:00Thank you so much for the help. When you are test...Thank you so much for the help. When you are testing with Phenolphthalein on the paper towel, do you wait for the sample to dry to check the pinkness (this may sound really obvious to you)? It takes a while for the pink color to develop on the paper towel so I'm just wondering if you make your clear sample determination once the paper is fully dried after placing the drop on it. Again, thanks for the guidance, your blog is so helpful!Ashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02603802362322275935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-53396783677837261322016-08-28T07:41:56.710-05:002016-08-28T07:41:56.710-05:00If your Phenolphthalein test is clear that means t...If your Phenolphthalein test is clear that means that there is no excess lye. If you still have unsaponified fats in your paste there will be nothing for them to react with to turn those fats to soap which could be the cause of the cloudiness. If that is the case, you may have mis-measured or over estimated the purity of your KOH. Things to check - make sure that you checked KOH in the calculator that you used and the 90% box if you used soapcalc. Make sure that you did not accidentally use NaOH instead of KOH when creating your paste. This may sound silly - but people have accidentally calculated for KOH but used NaOH instead. This will not stay translucent as NaOH is for opaque bar soap.<br /><br />As for foaming - this will happen if you use the glycerin method and you mix it too much while creating the paste. You can end up with a thick layer of foam on the surface and a dark fluid amber liquid on the bottom.Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-45237589846447427672016-08-27T15:23:08.234-05:002016-08-27T15:23:08.234-05:00Thank you so much for the reply! Per your suggesti...Thank you so much for the reply! Per your suggestion, I checked clarity and it is still cloudy, and I checked the pH with phenolthaleine and it is not pink, so is it possible I don't have enough hydroxide if the soap isn't clear? Are you aware of problems due to cooking soap at too high of a temperature initially in a crock pot or do you know what would cause it to foam? My paste is pretty much the opposite of a thick gel, it's 48% coconut and 52% olive, without any other additives. Again, many, many thanks for your reply. Ashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02603802362322275935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-45172743607166643972016-08-27T12:02:30.398-05:002016-08-27T12:02:30.398-05:00HI Ashley - have you done a clarity test yet with ...HI Ashley - have you done a clarity test yet with distilled water? Pastes will vary from formula to formula and even batch to batch and you cannot rely just on how it looks to determine if it is ready to dilute. Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-3261034740942828452016-08-26T19:53:59.267-05:002016-08-26T19:53:59.267-05:00Hi and thank you for the photos and step by step i...Hi and thank you for the photos and step by step instructions! I am troubleshooting a batch that was turning translucent (with the crockpot on high) but after the first 1hr of cooking the paste turned white and semi-foamy, it developed microbubbles and now has the consistency of mashed potatoes. I had no liquid separation after the initial stir, so do you have any advice for why I no longer have translucency? I would greatly appreciate any clues you've got!Ashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02603802362322275935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-89095545117756071942016-07-09T07:55:01.314-05:002016-07-09T07:55:01.314-05:00True liquid soap made with Potassium Hydroxide is ...True liquid soap made with Potassium Hydroxide is an alkaline product will always have a true alkaline pH. The way one measures pH can cause inaccurate readings. You will not be able to reduce the pH of your liquid soap to that of neutral or acidic. Once you lower the pH, your soap will start to break apart and turn into some soap, water, glycerin, fatty acids (that will separate out of solution) and potassium citrate (if you lower the pH with citric acid.) Please see the post on lowering pH and accurate pH readings here: http://alaiynab.blogspot.com/2015/05/ph-testing-of-liquid-soap-and-lowering.html<br /><br />Liquid soap/shampoo made with potassium hydroxide is not suitable for all hair types. High alkaline products will lift the cuticle/hair shaft and cause all those little pieces to get very tangled and may cause damage/breakage especially with continued use. Many people will then use a conditioning product to then close the hair shaft/cuticle BUT it will not correct any breakage and damage that was previously done. Shorter hair styles seem to be less affected by this as the damaged ends are cut off more frequently.<br /><br />Some people have no problems using a high alkaline product on their hair - each person will be different. Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-82619503450800498782016-07-09T02:31:08.599-05:002016-07-09T02:31:08.599-05:00hi I'm making liquid shampoo for over a year a...hi I'm making liquid shampoo for over a year and it's drying my hair the ph is 8 i want to make the ph 5 is it possible with citric acid? thank you so muchAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12039719359166530635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-30605790066170730432016-02-16T12:47:44.634-06:002016-02-16T12:47:44.634-06:00I leave the crockpot on low - heat will help it al...I leave the crockpot on low - heat will help it along but can also cause some evaporation.Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-26443652628896246702016-02-16T12:29:03.436-06:002016-02-16T12:29:03.436-06:00I have a question. When you dilute your soap paste...I have a question. When you dilute your soap paste, do you leave the crockpot on? I still have a soap scum on the top of my soap that I made last night but it was off all night, wondering if I left it warmer it would dilute quicker? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-26687206411246190702015-10-30T08:44:52.368-05:002015-10-30T08:44:52.368-05:00If when doing a clarity test (a test to determine ...If when doing a clarity test (a test to determine whether you paste is done cooking) and you end up with a milky solution - that typically means you have not cooked your paste long enough and should continue to cook it until it is no longer milky looking. However, this may depend also on the oils/butters you choose to use. Those high in unsaponifiables or stearic or palmatic acids may never be clear.<br />Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-68884781066201337202015-10-30T03:30:15.071-05:002015-10-30T03:30:15.071-05:00I want to ask, I have a combination of coconut oil...I want to ask, I have a combination of coconut oil: olive oil: sunfloweroil = 75: 15: 15 but at this stage of the test the clarity of me not to such a degree that every time I try the hot water would have formed white emulsion like milk, but which I suspect is hot uneven. How about this?<br />thanks very muchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-42100498430554884792015-10-06T08:08:21.893-05:002015-10-06T08:08:21.893-05:00Yes - cold process shampoo bars and liquid soap sh...Yes - cold process shampoo bars and liquid soap shampoo do not work for everybody. These products will have a higher pH than other surfactant shampoo systems due to the alkaline nature of soap. That higher alkalinity raises the hair cuticle/shaft and can cause tangling of all those tiny raised hairs (mild to severe). This is why an acid rinse or other type of conditioner is often necessary - to lower the pH and close the cuticle. Those were permanent hair color (not temporary or semi-permanent) in which the color is deposited in the hair shaft during the coloring process should not use high alkaline hair products as when the cuticle is lifted, that hair color can leach out. Other coloring systems deposit the color on top of the hair to coat it so the alkalinity is not an issue for their color as with permanent color.<br /><br />A greasy feeling could also have to do with the superfat of the product. Even though these are wash off (out) products, a high superfat will leave some of those excess oils behind which could be too much for some hair types. Shampoo bars are easier to superfat than liquid shampoo too.<br /><br />It would be difficult to offer suggestions on how to fix something like this as each person is different. But, just remember, alkaline products do not work well for everyone.Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-28393579663652143862015-10-05T19:29:19.764-05:002015-10-05T19:29:19.764-05:00Have you ever had anyone say the shampoo doesn'...Have you ever had anyone say the shampoo doesn't work for them? That is leaves their hair feeling greasy, yet doesn't look greasy? My daughter and friend had their issue. But it works great for me and my other daughter. When I made a shampoo bar I had the greasy issue but not with the liquid. Do you know what would cause this and how to fix it? ThanksAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13809885927222594954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-42682442057723750532015-06-15T03:45:59.439-05:002015-06-15T03:45:59.439-05:00Yes, I realized myself that pH meters are somewhat...Yes, I realized myself that pH meters are somewhat strange and have to be calibrated very often to get the most accurate results. <br />Anyway, I made another batch of coconut oil just to see how will it go and I was very pleased with the outcome. Everything was fine this time, no discrepancy with the pH levels. My 99% solution was 10.0 and the diluted soap is at 9.5 pH. Now I know I'm on the right path and I have you to thank for that. The way you test the soap paste for the excess lye is the most helpful thing for me.<br />Thanks again for this incredible blog. I hope to see some of the post in the Recipe section soon.<br />MelissaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-131111316654436202015-06-03T20:52:32.951-05:002015-06-03T20:52:32.951-05:00Actual pH will vary from batch to batch and readin...Actual pH will vary from batch to batch and reading to reading for various reasons. pH meters have a +/- accuracy of a few tenths of a point too so two different meters could get slightly different readins on the exact same sample (I have three meters and they are never identical). It is really not pH you need to worry about as true liquid soap will always have an alkaline pH - but excess lye. Faith Orioldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506867106085799485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4338942671670735223.post-27231318916008347382015-06-03T13:53:05.817-05:002015-06-03T13:53:05.817-05:00Yes, I did. I even bought a new pH meter to be ab...Yes, I did. I even bought a new pH meter to be absolutely sure. I hope this post won't get duplicated. If it does, I apologise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com